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Yes John what you say is true...however that philosophy is open to interpretation....where I differ from the average socialist is that I believe everyone should receive their fair share but on the other hand also contribute and pay their fair share....along with that contribution comes responsibility....a system only works if people are not greedy and are honest to each other and to the system where the weak are looked after and nobody gets greedy.....sadly basic human nature has an inbuilt greed factor and a competitive instinct to outdo... nothing wrong with that if it is controlled and tempered....that said folk would soon come around if they realised that the system was as fair as could be obtained and everyone was treated fairly. It is all about social justice.
Under a fair socialist cooperative system the small benefits that some might obtain are just a small drop in the ocean compared to the huge difference in the share of wealth enjoyed by only a few under a capitalist society. For example I know guys who are lazy...that should never be rewarded...I also know guys who can graft all day and do things better, quicker and more efficiently than most others.....they should be rewarded but not to the extent that the gap is irrational.
Personally I think it obscene that a pop star who can barely sing in tune or a football player kicking a ball about can earn millions. Meanwhile a nurse who works long hours, saves lives on a daily basis who makes IMO a more valuable contribution to society is paid a pittance in comparison....that on its own is IMHO enough of a reason to reject and declare capitalism as corrupt and evil....
I see nothing wrong with small businesses and people actually making a small profit....but there comes a point when big businesses with excessive profits bleeds the country dry and does not give anything back in return. The recent collapse of Greece and now perhaps Italy almost certainly to be followed by Spain and Portugal plus a few other European states is proof enough that capitalism is not working. Perhaps if the big business played by the rules and the politicians stood up to them and made the rules less one sided then things might be fairer.....but I doubt that will ever happen when so many politicians are corrupt and have vested interests in these companies.
Interesting discussion..... I apologise for stealing the thread and harping on about a subject I am more than passionate about......but if it gets people thinking about the injustices in our present system then maybe some good will come out of my rants.
Ignorance and apathy are our enemies...sadly whilst a lot of people have an opinion on what they want from a government most people in the UK cannot even be bothered to vote....and most of those who do vote have no idea what they are voting for....perhaps they deserve what they get....and get what they deserve.....crooks.