Brian
So Far everything I have seen on Ourstage has been positive.
I have no complaints about it. I still think it a usefull tool and worth the time to be there.
The only negative I have seen is the blatant copyright violations or obvious mis-use of Genre just so you can enter a song.
It does seem the site is more for Performing Artists. Although I think most write their own material. I guess that is how it should be. Songwriters do linger in the background and rarely get recognition for their work unless they are also a performer. Most people have no idea who writes the songs.

For the life of me I cannot see how knowing how many times your song is judged could help someone cheat. I also don't see how someone could be stupid enough to think a popular channel would get less action than a less popular channel.
Now I can see how someone would complain if their song is never being judged on a channel and someone else's song is being judged dozens of times.
I don't think the judging is even. I think the random system has a flaw. Too many people have said they keep seeing the same songs over and over again.
IMHO if I am judging songs on a channel with 500 songs on it I should not see the same song more than once in 250 battles. I should not see the same song 20 times. And it seems that the ones I am seeing over and over again are always ranked pretty high, at least in the top 20 percent or so it seems.
If a song is not being judged how can it move up...or down...
I have had one song that I was watching carefully. It was stuck at one spot for days. The only time it moved was when the total number of songs on the channel increased, if the number went up by two the song dropped by two, if the number went up by one the song dropped by one. If the song was being judged it would have moved.
If a song is coming up for judging every twenty or thirty battles it will get voted on a lot more. Familiarity brings recognition.
Who is going to go searching through 1000 songs to find a song hidden at number 700? Most people will figure any song that low must really suck.

On your advice I uploaded a professional demo of my song I was upset about. I put my version in the Southern Rock channel. It is doing better there. The Professional Demo version is in the Country channel. It is doing a little better than my version but not much. So I guess it wasn't my singing. Ha! or my guitar work.

But I judged that channel 250 times in one day and The song came up ONCE. Other songs came up so often I knew the words to the song and could sing along. How can that be fair?
All I would be interested in knowing is how many times my song is up for competition compared to those songs I heard a dozen times.
I'd also like to know how many people are listeners and how many are performers. If the majority are bands/performers it is a peer site. If the majority are listeners it is a fan site. That would be interesting to know.

Beyond that I think Ourstage is doing very well.
And, the songs that are winning deserve to win. From what I have seen they are very good songs.

Hmmm
I just read this again.
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The valuable number is not how many times someone has been FORCED to listen to your songs via the way of judging, but how many times they listened because they wanted to or they were curious. That's a good number to see.. the other is just your random number of times it comes up.


So, the best song is not always the winner. The best song is determined by how many battles it is in.
Why not just rank the songs by how many people listen because they want too?

Last edited by Bill Robinson; 07/14/08 01:14 PM.

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