Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Originally Posted by Brian Austin Whitney
When you can show any evidence of your claims above, let me know.

Show any evidence of a future that is evolving at this moment, but not all the way here yet?
No, I don't have that to show you. Same with "black holes" in space.

I don't have a piece of a black hole that I could put in a box and overnight to you.
I don't have a space ship that will carry me out to one so that I can take pics with my phone and post those on JPF.
I don't even have a telescope that can see out to a black hole and its environs...and take a pic of that to show you. (Would not actually show the hole. Would show light and matter being sucked into it.)

Yet, I believe that they (and dark matter) exists...because of what learned people who can glimpse what is happening in their environs, write about them. Same is true and more readily visible with the evolution of AI.

Additionally, I have watched the evolution of architectural software since the 80's. I worked at a 300 man firm in the 80s that had one CAD station. By the 90s, AutoCad was just as powerful and on every architects desk. In fact, more powerful. Originally, it just emulated historical drafting techniques. Then it became 3 dimensional and could build crude virtual models. The models have been more and more refined as the tech evolved. Then rendering software became more and more photorealistic. Now some of those images of virtual models would fool most people out there, as actual photos. Now my rendering software (LUMION) will produce videos with a few clicks of the virtual models. I can add moving people, birds flying, trees blowing in the wind, rain, snow etc etc etc. Do the videos still have tell-tell signs that they are not images of actual realities? Yes. But they are evolving and soon they won't. And there are the virtual reality goggles. Haven't tried them yet with my models but I suspect that they are amazing and one day all of this will put a viewer amongst images that can't be discerned from reality.

Important Note....with each passing year the rendering software's interface gets more streamlined and simpler to use...and the software becomes more powerful and more photorealistic.

The morale of the story....(where is that leading?)
With the addition of AI, I can easily see where I, the human, will not be necessary anymore.
The time is coming when you can feed a machine and a group of humans the desired criteria for your new office building. The humans will take days to plan and produce a set of construction documents for one alternative. The machine will produce several instantly. (Unless you count the human who turns the machine on as an "architect."

And if you like, the machine will interact back-and-forth with you, sincerely ask you how your children are doing and if that last bout that you had with your hemorrhoids cleared up. And no, the machine wont be organic, but it will be convincing. And it will be capable of constructing it's own conceptual associations at a much faster rate than a human.

Similar to the Deist's view of God back in the 18th century...humans will "create" the machine and give it the ability to "think" governed by the laws of physics and mathematics, and the machine will take it from there.

Human kind is already morphing into a coupled/combination with the machines. One day, I suspect that some humans and all of their experiences and memories can live forever...or until the universe shrinks to a singularity again and blows up for another round...or something.

It started with the ancient Greeks, maybe before. Everything can be defined and emulated by numbers.

Paraphrasing Ayn Rand...You can deny reality, but you cannot deny the consequences of denying reality.

You lost me at "black hole." That is nonsense and will be laughably disproven in the future, just as 99.99999999% of all science before it. It is just theory by people paid to make [naughty word removed] up to get government grants. Nothing is more useless and pointless as "space theory" because everything they taught us in school was instantly disproven when they turned on the latest space telescope. And when the next one goes up, it will do the same. Einstein was wrong. The guy with the robot voice was wrong. All nonsense, just like the fear of a computer program.


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