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So you woke up this morning and somehow summoned a genie who said he would grant you one song--and all you needed to do was just say some words describing that song.

You say those words, he then makes a few weird genie moves, and suddenly there's a new file on your computer. It's one of the most compelling, beautiful things you've ever heard. You can hear some tiny influence of other artists, but you played it for your copyright lawyer friend who said, "No, not any record artist we can find, not on any streaming site, this is an original work. Is it yours?"

What do you tell him?

--but I don't really care about this response. That's meant rhetorically, as a philosophical thing to ponder.

--and PLEASE...try to suspend your disbelief and go with this premise for a second, okay?

What I would like to know is who among us would throw out the file and not keep it? Doesn't the fact that it is beautiful and you love it mean more than whether or not you wrote it or "the gods" wrote it? Wouldn't you want that piece of music to remain part of your life?

Why are so many of us getting hung up on attribution, ownership, and the likes? Hung up and willing to turn away something beautiful, simply because it didn't issue forth from our own brain? --on the surface, sounds rather egocentric...

If I can be part of a process that brings something beautiful, unique, or at least really interesting into the world, do I care so much if I am the sole-owner, co-creator, or someone who figured out some magic combination of words to bring forth the creation?

That's the main difference between a faked term paper and AI music production: with AI music production, most folks aren't judging you on "how it came to be" --they are simply responding to what they hear. Unless you go out of your way to go, "hey I "wrote" this, what do you think?" --then they might inquire about your process in manifesting said music.

But with this approach: "listen to this..." --most folks will respond to what they hear, and perhaps comment on liking it/disliking it...

Which is my point. Don't be imagining everyone will be using music AI in the same way: every one has different needs. People who have little interest in being writers/composers might enjoy having the AI do it all. God forbid they have any fun.

Others, like Rob B, a seasoned composer, might use Udio


Let me speak for myself. I consider myself a decent composer, and a lover of good music generally. I have been having a gas using Udio. It comes up with some AMAZING music I would never have been able to imagine. But I like it, and by process of "default" it is mine, and I did NOT write one note of it; and I, unlike many of you, have NO PROBLEM with that, because the piece of music, as a thing, in and of itself, has a right to exist, and I WANT it to exist, cuz it is good, it is beautiful, and THAT means more to me than sorting out "who did what, who owns what, etc..."


Mike