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Brian, can you defend udio on its own merits without the irrelevant comparison of past music technology? All past music technology still required a person to compose the music, unlike udio. Udio doesn’t even require any knowledge of music. Anyone can go on udio and become an instant composer.
My take on udio is it creates music for anyone while downloading internet copyrighted SAMPLES into its application. That’s why udio is facing lawsuits. Here’s from the Recording Industry Association of America: “Unlicensed services like Suno and Udio that claim it’s ‘fair’ to copy an artist’s life’s work and exploit it for their own profit without consent or pay set back the promise of genuinely innovative AI for us all,” Recording Industry Association of America chair and CEO Mitch Glazier said in a press release.
As far as your reference to possible copyright infringement for being influenced by other artists and songwriters. As long as one doesn’t copy another’s work and call it his own, there’s no problem. In fact, listening to the great writers of the past and present is a great learning tool. Building on this knowledge is what advances music. Otherwise, we never would have gotten past Gregorian chants.
John
It is funny you quoted the exact person who proves all my points. The RIAA is the reason we have horrible royalty rates and no voice in political negotiations. They falsely claim to represent ALL OF US when they only account for low single digit amounts of recorded music. Yet they have lied to politicians and corporations saying (at the time I publicly confronted them) 88% of all recording artists. At the time I counted every single artist they actually represented and it was around 250. JPF at the time had 89k artists meaning they did not even represent .0025% of artists at the is just out of our group plus there's. In truth we were way less than 1% ourselves.
At that time it meant they weren't even 1/250th of 1%. Yet they got 100% of the negotiating power. What did they do? They sold us all out. Their corporate benefactors got backdoor money for their signed artists and partial ownership of streamers and the 99.99%+ of the rest of us got screwed. So their lawsuit is yet another money grab and will end with a settlement putting money in THEIR pockets but none of the 99.99%. And the AI will continue right along.
Soon enough many of these artists will sell rights to actually copy just their sound for folks to make songs that sound like them. It is all coming. The same thing will happen when rights holders for famous actors sell permission to make new movies using deceased actors. Music is already breaking ground with Kiss who sold everything to an AI company to keep making new Kiss content forever.
AI will not be stopped. Lawsuits are just money grabs for the far more intrusive use that WILL infringe, but these lawsuits Will make it all legal to steal from the 99.99% with all the money going to the Elites only.
You and I will likely be gone before it reaches that level, but if you have 25 years left in you, you can look back on this discussion and decide who had it right.
In 25 years I'll be 100 Brian. I saw on the news a couple days ago, that man has a 1 in 10,000 chance of reaching the age of 95. I do agree, AI isn't going to be stopped. At least not by us mere mortals. If I'm alive in 25 years, I'll still be composing at the piano with pen and manuscript. That's wishful thinking.
John
Last edited by John Lawrence Schick; 07/09/2405:57 AM.
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