Originally Posted by John Lawrence Schick
It has been mentioned several times throughout these AI/Udio threads about a comparison between past technology such as synths, drum machines, sample packages like Native Instruments, East West Orch, Ivory piano, and applications like Logic, Cubase, etc. One significant difference in past technologies was that these companies used cleared samples or created their own. AI/ Udio, however, used uncleared samples from artists and musicians without their permission. Which Is Stealing. I could accept apps like udio easier if they were honest and used cleared samples.

One other problem I have with AI technology is that it can hinder young minds in developing skills that require a great amount of time, study, knowledge, and a true sense of accomplishment – not to mention creativity.

So, you can rationalize anyway you want, to convince yourself this is legitimate, but the bottom-line is it’s stealing.

John smile

Sorry John but that is factually untrue. A.I. learns much like humans. It evaluates music, learns lessons from it, and then uses not just a single "sample" like a rapper, but it writes parts like someone who graduated with an advanced masters of music. Guess what those people did? They listened and read a wide array of music, learned from it, then used the knowledge to produce new music. Copyright law is 100% still in effect. If someone can make a case for infringement, they have the exact same protections they always have. If there are similarities, then a jury trial might have to decide, just like it did when George Harrison lost the My Sweet Lord case. Ironically, many think the human jury got it wrong. But guess what? They are now training A.I. to find similarities to enforce copyright!

I think everyone is worrying about the wrong things. The REAL danger is that is will raise the bar for nearly ALL musicians to be, at worst, sonically competent. But the good far outweighs the bad. More people will get to engage in music and the joy it brings to all of humanity long before people started selling anything! A.I. hasn't shown an ability to write hits yet, but with minimal human guidance, it soon will. And those humans who guided it will own it, unless it infringes. Nothing has changed. Instead of a rich label or artist hiring the best of everything to make them sound great, EVERYONE will have the same floor. It will ALL sound great without a huge budget! Poor people with talent will have the same access as the rich people for the first time ever. The biggest losers will be Corporations who scam humans. Music already has negligible commercial value, it is only when big corporations promote it that it has value. Now, the market will be so segmented that Corporations will not be able to corner the market or access. But humans will be able to cobble together fans directly and make more money with total freedom than every before. It will be like you have 100 musicians and engineers working for you free. It won't make you creative. Those who are most creative will still have the same upper hand as every before.

Encyclopedias have always gathered info from existing sources, put them in a manageable product you could read and use for further work. This has done the same with music. If you republished a protected work, you get sued, if not, fair game. It is no different here.

Brian


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