Nope FD...it depends on which liar you listen to.

and Steve, Marty has come a long way from being Trump's shill. This place (JPF) was actively trying to persuade him that the election was not stolen back in 2020....as was being found by judges in the land....and that his persistence in that belief, and the persistence of that belief by his "co believers" would result in violence and deep political division and distrust. ----this was before the "Capitol tourist tour"---
You can see the entire disappointment in his posts now....all media lies and Trump is persona non grata

So keep at it. Either Marty will see that you have a good point, or time will prove you right. smile

If writing ever becomes work I think I'm going to have to stop