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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by TrumanCoyote:
[b]There are tons of hit songs with bad and or unoriginal lyrics.

"Nope. There may be tons of hit songs that you don't like. But someone likes them, so how "bad" can they be? The issue of originality is another matter altogether. Where is it written that a song must plow completely fresh earth in order to be a good song? It may be what YOU are looking for in a song, but the general public is perfectly happy to listen to songs that sound nice and whose lyrics speak to THEM."

In MY world and I suspect many other peoples there are tons of hit songs with bad and or unoriginal lyrics. In everyone's world there are tons of hit songs with the same old cliches.


Take Alan Jacksons "Remember when." This has to be one of the most unoriginal songs I heard in quite some time. The song idea is very unoriginal, the lyric is one big cliche and the melody is extremely unoriginal.

"Okay then. It is not a very original song, yet lots of people seem to have been moved by it. What does that tell you? As a songwriter, what can you learn from that?"

I've learned that a hit song can and is often times sold and forced on us by record companies.

Goes to show, Star power can make a lame song a hit.

"That comment is pretty insulting to the thousands of people who like the song."

Not at all. I think it's a lame song, I feel many music insiders, publishers, labels etc would think it pretty lame as well if it was one of use trying to pitch it and if it was not for Mr Jackson perfroming it. You and others are aloud to like whatever you like.

The Top 40 is filled with lame unoriginal songs that are hits because of who are singing them.

A"gain, you seem to keep harping that it is originality that defines greatness in songwriting. There is no evidence to support your opinion."

I believe originality is the heart of a good song. I'm sorry, I don't settle for average, or try not to, it's too easy.


That's not to say all top 40 songs are lame. Long Black Train, Spend My Time and Redneck girls (great lyric) are some of my favs.

"Man, what a bunch of lame songs! [Linked Image]"

Somehow I don't think you believe that [Linked Image]

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Forgive me, I'm not sure I quoted the post correctly, I used quotations to note my words.. I'm lame!