Originally Posted by JAPOV
Figures lie... Liars figure.

The only reason "global capitalists" want you to believe that overpopulation is wasting global resources is because... it boosts their profits, they can inflate their costs.
Meanwhile, they're the ones "trashing" the Earth and "TAXING" the population with the responsibility of cleaning it up. They set the stage for how everyone should live with multibillion dollar advertising and pretty plastic packaging, then blame the consumer for all the trash and poor air quality in our filthy cities... which they own.

As the "consumer"... you're being held responsible for living precisely the way corporate government engineered modern life to be lived. Then, you're penalized with the taxes they deem necessary to fix their profit motivated engineering. Ironically, they justify this business standard by calling it "freedom".

It occurs to me that mankind has reached a strange time in its "evolution"... when the concept of "money" has outgrown the worth of the planet we occupy.

Greed is the root of all evil.

Tony

I promised myself to avoid this thread as radioactive. But I read it now and then and something remarkable happened that astonished me.
You wrote something realistic, credible, tangible and somewhat verifiable, for maybe the first time ever. Quoted above.

Correction: for the first time ever.

For my money, the gist of the quote is correct.
If over-population and the various wastes resulting from over-consumption are going to ultimately choke the planet off...then why is an ever expanding population for the sake of expanding profits (or anything) a paradigm?

All of your prefacing facts and figgers about this and that looks like 2+2 = 37.3
But the gist of your wrap-up puts you and me sharing a viewpoint.
I was so stunned that I set aside my better judgement and said so.

Stunned in Madasgascar,

Marty