Rob,

Tell ya what.

Political and religious discussions always end in arguments. Everyone everywhere knows that. They are poison to discourse.
If you enter into a political or religious "back-and-forth" and you expect the other participants to behave according to how you think that they should, from one moment to the next...you are in for disappointment.

Imo... beyond a political discussion or some guys bantering back and forth...there are some other things going on here.

Given that, I think it best that we don't respond to each other's posts, at least for while.

Marty

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