You are right Graham. 2000 years of indoctrine dogma and misconceptions cannot be wiped out by rational discussion. I think Everett was addressing the question to me. Everett the whole point that I was making is that I cannot understand how folk can arrive at such strong BELIEFS without knowing the full facts or listening to or respecting any alternative views. I cannot argue with your beliefs only the reasoning and facts you base those beliefs on. If your facts are wrong then this should be pointed out.