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Most debates have sides, and this is no exception Jim. One sides facts are often the other side's fiction. I saw Ray's "I can attest "I can attest" and thought of that very thing. I see it he believes God Loves us all. He sees as it he knows God Loves us. Maybe on the usumption that to say I believe instead of I know, would suggest some doubt. Whatever the reason. I see I know, and it comes with a "Closed mind" sticker attached. Either way i wonder about that given very few of us know the others we are addressing in forums well enough to actually know them well enough to know, or even believe any god would in fact love us. I hope no young folks read this and come to the conclusion grownups can be very childish at times. Graham
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