Hi Y'all...
:)Excuse me please...for rehashing...BUT...I
was off the internet...for the last two days....and couldn't
respond to y'all... I wasn't ignoring your questions to me...or your thoughts. So tis my 2nd and last....also...
Jim and Graham...You two always make me smile...!!!.. Two folks I'd positive love to meet in person... here on JPF.... !!!!..and both so far away. Going to try my hardest to get to Pineyfest this upcoming year...Would be honored to talk to both of ya!!...if you could make it.
I'd heard that lifeboat question once in a sermon....and got thinking about it... and thought, it not only applied to folks that didn't believe in God...but so many folks that do ..including me at times in my life. Meaning...There's been times in my life when I've put God off in a corner and cried out only when I really needed His help.
Truman
and others have questioned my citing
proofs... I went that direction in answering rather than talking about my own Faith, Hope, Trust, and Belief because I was trying to answer folks that are looking for tangibles.
I started out by saying......:
I am a believer and yes I believe the Bible is God's Inspired Word. BUT IF I WAS SPEAKING TO AN UNBELIEVER, I'd start by suggesting he or she look at proofs such as Design in Nature, Laws, Answered Prayers that were nothing short of a Miracle,
Creation requiring both a Creator and a Sustainer, and Life coming from life.
What I meant was....If I was speaking to someone...who thought
the Bible was a series of Hebrew and Greek Beddy By Tales :),
and who positively did not believe in God whatsoever? it might make more impact having them at least THINK about creation requiring a creator...and design requiring a designer...Laws that govern this Universe....requiring an originator and a sustainer....and bring out the fact that on one hand evolution based textbooks start out with the statement....In the beginning the ATOM..and on the other hand, sneer at, In the Beginning God... I still would hope folks would put the atom in a search engine...study it a bit...and then tell me based on face value.., it didn't require a designer
The apostle Paul...said it much better in Romans 1:20...
This is a paraphrase from the Bible Tools Web site:
This was the verse I was trying to think of when I said...Folks could know God exists by just looking out their windows.
Romans 1:20 (paraphrase)(Bible Tools Web Site)
Even without the Spirit of God, without God having fully revealed Himself to a person, it is still possible for him to recognize that a creation demands the existence of a Creator. He can see that an intelligent Designer is necessary rather than the natural world coming into existence by sheer chance. Thus, God says that they are without excuse because they can understand the things that can be known about Him, if they choose to accept it.
The very best to y'all.....this weekend....and Happy Writing!!!
Kaley...
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http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=8404&content=musicChildren Songs:
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=6469&content=musicWyman and Kaley's Andy & Friends CD
http://cdbaby.com/cd/kwwg Kaley said:
Where is the morality in youth?
...Like many others, I would not look just at the youth.
I don't think we (society) believe morals have changed because we slowly over time change with the changes. If a pot of water starts out as being tepid....and ever so slowly gets warm...and then by small degrees gets warmer still over time, would we realize it was getting warmer? I don't think we would. NOT until it got so hot one day that we'd wake up and say "how did it get this hot?".
God or Not.
I am a believer and yes I believe the Bible is God's Inspired Word. But if I was speaking to an unbeliever, I'd start by suggesting he or she look at proofs such as Design in Nature, Laws, Answered Prayers that were nothing short of a Miracle,
Creation requiring both a Creator and a Sustainer, and Life coming from life.
Just a few and I'll be quiet...because I don't like to babble on about my beliefs...but If I'm questioned, I'll answer...or
like this...topic, I'll speak up if I feel like I can offer something.
We're all born into a ready made world. Many of us, like Jim
is saying, do NOT question what we're taught. We don't take the time to research it out...we trust...we believe..with out
taking the time to really investigate what and why we believe.
It's been stated in evolutionary textbooks that the "big bang" started with an exploding atom.....hmmmmm...If true, who created the meticulously designed atom, which in itself is like a little universe...incredibly complex!!!.... Some folks will say Christians are crazy for believing "In the beginning, God"...yet...will say..."In the beginning, the atom". In order for an atom to have started everything...
A Creation, itself, had to be in place. Because it took an incredible designer and sustainer to make the atom to begin with. Pull up and study the atom in any search engine and
see if you feel it required a designer.
The laws of Gravity and physics are absolutes!!...They required both a Law Giver...and A sustainer. I don't wake up in the morning and Thank God for the laws of Gravity...but I really should!!.What if there was not
a sustainer?.( even for just ONE second?)..
Answered Prayers. Like many others I don't like to see deceitful practices like "some times" are shown on tv...where
someone who really isn't sick to begin with starts ...miraculously jumping about. But there are many doctors out there who would agree with the statement..."The only possible explanation was a Miracle."
Life coming from Life.(life coming from the LIVING not inanimate). I had parents, my dog had parents,
cows have parents, etc..... Life comes from Life.
and...Design...
God says...that we can know he exists...by looking out our windows. (paraphrase).
Snowflakes, the human body, the colors of a sunset, the patterns of stars in the sky, how the ocean waves come so far and then stop, and just being able to breathe in.........and breathe out each day... I'm thankful there is a God.
But like you, Jim...I would get bored playing a harp and floating on a cloud for eternity. Thank God....I believe He has something much greater for us planned than that.
and why is there such heartbreak,pain and sickness about?...God explains that in the Bible in the book of Deuteronomy in the old testament....I'm doing this from memory and I think it's chapter 28....Basically it comes down to we're stubborn....., we think we have all the answers...and can solve all our own problems...God's giving us a certain span of time to allow us to do just that..(try). That's why He doesn't always intervene. Thankfully, There will be an intervention when He will once again send his Son to this earth....at the point where humans would wipe every other human off the face of the earth.
One other thing....How many atheists are there...on a lifeboat..adrift in the middle of the ocean...with sharks circling about..?
the very best to you all,
Kaley....
Piano Melodies by Kaley and Demos:
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=8404&content=musicChildren Songs:
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=6469&content=musicWyman and Kaley's Andy & Friends CD
http://cdbaby.com/cd/kwwg 
