Sausage..... that is ridiculous now you are clutching at straws....... without mentioning the Bible which I dispute is accurate or factual please show me PROOF that your belief is based upon anything other than imagination and man made folklore....you cannot....that is why it is a belief.......based on nothing but ignorance hope and imagination.....now I know my car is outside...cause I parked it there....I can see it and touch it.......that is not a belief it is a fact..and if it gets stolen then that is fact also...America is there....fact......as for God well nobody has seen him or touched him apart from in their imagination...so he cannot be a fact....Now my car and God/religion have things in common...they have both been manufactured by man.......and they both have flaws cause my brand new car is displaying a warning light.....Now when it comes to the Bible there are warning lights galore. I could write a book about the things God has done and said according to the Bible that go against my basic morals...and even his teachings..I can supply an abbreviated list of some of these if you want.

Everett you are a good man I could never call you stupid and would censure anyone who does......if you have inferred that from any of my posts then that was not my intention.......for the record I talk of ignorance......ignorance and stupidity are two different things. Ignorance simply means a lack of knowledge or understanding of facts.....there are certain topics or subjects in which I am truly ignorant....that does not mean I am stupid and that goes for you and everyone else......ignorance does not mean stupid.